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ali89k · Nov 22, 2007, 04:19 PM // 16:19

In you opinion what is the best overall second proffesion as an asssassin and why (im currently about to choose my second and dont know which one to go for)

Thanks.

ensoriki · Nov 22, 2007, 04:53 PM // 16:53

If your going to change your second proffession that means you are on factions without access to A/P or A/D (not that they are better)
So that leaves us with 7 choices.
A/mo
A/W
A/me
A/E
A/N
A/Rt
A/R
Each of these is a good choice, for a bigger A/N probably would not be the best choice as some of the things you do with A/N require that you understand aggro/aoe a bit (like mark of pain)

A/rt lets you use Weapon spells, Or 1 of there Red bar pushing heals.
However A/rt once again would probably not suit you as you start.

A/Mo
A/Me
A/E
And A/R are the best choices in my opinion for a new assassin.
All the other classes can all give support to the assassin's arsenal, but when first starting out I think these are the better choices.

A/mo gives you some heals, in the beginning you may find assassin heals inadequate so start with monk heals and slowly integrate shadow arts.

A/R is also nice, if your having problems with dagger and aggro start a bow assassin, you will not be terribly effective but its easier to get into in my opinion as a midliner (?).
A/R also gives you pets and preperations and Antidote signet.

A/me in factions is a good choice do to afflicted. Taking Mantra of Frost will give your assassin a defensive boost against Soul Explosions that would otherwise handicap you. A/me is also used in farming (so that you can get into it if you wish)
with the use of shadow form, generally but is not limited to it.
The assassin and mesmer also synergize well do to the assassin already being partially a mesmer like class.
The assassin's Deadly arts is similar to the mesmer, and going A/me gives you an alternative to the second rate attribute (of course Deadly arts has its own uses).

A/E also lets you farm, and gives you access to conjures and elemental armors!
Frigid armor and its cousins can work an a PvE assassin (not so much pvp).
A/E also gives you Water Snares like Icy Shackles if you do not have access to Nightfall or do not wish to use Shadow Prison or its ilk.

A/R and A/mo are very noob friendly, and I chose A/R for my first assassin and got through just fine.
Please note that you can change your secondary Profession in Senji's Corner for 500 gold and then you can change them whenever you wish for free.

Also note the assassin does not need to use a secondary profession EVER, in many cases. A secondary profession is generally used for Support of your class, but the assassin like the ranger is a very versatile dexterous profession and no secondary will hinder you at all.

So to be precise.

Choose A/me,A/mo,A/R or A/E
However you don't need to limit your self to my opinions.
If you still cannot choose, right a list with all the secondarys on it.
Close your eyes and move your hand through the list, Stop and wherever your hand is, is the secondary you choose.

You will not be hindered by choosing any secondary as there is no best.

ali89k · Nov 22, 2007, 05:01 PM // 17:01

Well thanks alot for tht buddy didnt expect tht sort of effort on my behalf

ensoriki · Nov 22, 2007, 05:25 PM // 17:25

Heh, no problem.
I'm bored and have nothing to lose* from posting such a long thing >.>

Faer · Nov 22, 2007, 05:33 PM // 17:33

Warrior, for Wild Blow and an IAS.

Frenzy is quite nice.

Coloneh · Nov 22, 2007, 06:20 PM // 18:20

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Originally Posted by Faer

Frenzy is quite nice.

flurry is quite nice. frenzy is suicide for a new player,

anyways best choice imo is /D. lots of useful skills there:
[skill]Conviction[/skill]
[skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill]
[skill]Vital Boon[/skill]
[skill]Pious Haste[/skill]
[skill]Zealous Renewal[/skill]
[skill]Harrier's Grasp[/skill]
[skill]Rending Touch[/skill]

silv3rr · Nov 22, 2007, 06:29 PM // 18:29

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Originally Posted by Faer

Warrior, for Wild Blow and an IAS.

Frenzy is quite nice.

I prefer Flurry over Frenzy. Sins are squishy enough, they don't need the 2x damage.

And their 7-17 base damage doesn't really suffer much from the damage reduction of Flurry.

ensoriki · Nov 22, 2007, 07:05 PM // 19:05

A new player does not have access to /D and by the time he does he can unlock all professions.

Qdq Swi · Nov 22, 2007, 09:59 PM // 21:59

/e conjures, /d mystic regen, /mo restful whatsit (in ra after spike is over and waiting for next target). some people use /r for stances.. but imo theyr just crap on a sin.

btw, flurry > frenzy on sin.

Hermos · Nov 22, 2007, 10:19 PM // 22:19

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

anyways best choice imo is /D. lots of useful skills there:

<<snip>>

Don't forget [skill]Heart of Holy Flame[/skill].

Helped immensely in FoW and HM Tyria.

Xue Fang · Nov 22, 2007, 10:27 PM // 22:27

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Originally Posted by Qdq Swi

/e conjures, /d mystic regen, /mo restful whatsit (in ra after spike is over and waiting for next target). some people use /r for stances.. but imo theyr just crap on a sin.

btw, flurry > frenzy on sin.

frenzy is the best ias there is

Hermos · Nov 22, 2007, 10:32 PM // 22:32

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Originally Posted by Xue Fang

frenzy is the best ias there is

Apart from the double damage with a 60 base AL... a 'sin could be wanded to death. Critical defences, much?

Zahr Dalsk · Nov 22, 2007, 10:41 PM // 22:41

In PvP, the DA assassin is still very much alive and spiking, so for PvP, A/Mo.

In PvP, I would say A/W as you can combine Critical Defenses, Flurry (it only affects base damage, not attack skill damage, so you lose out on 0-1 damage per attack), and a moebius chain for high survivability and killing power.

nekopowa · Nov 22, 2007, 10:43 PM // 22:43

Critical agility is the best IAS for PvE. Don't bother with frenzy.

I don't use 2nd professions much unless i farm though.

Coloneh · Nov 22, 2007, 10:44 PM // 22:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xue Fang

frenzy is the best ias there is

not on a sin. the downside of losing 2-3 damage off your daggers is nothing compared to taking double damage.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hermos

Don't forget [skill]Heart of Holy Flame[/skill].

Helped immensely in FoW and HM Tyria.

oops, forgot that, but Aura of holy might is better. if your in PvE

Bobby2 · Nov 23, 2007, 01:20 AM // 01:20

If the OP only has Factions (which I suspect) you'll probably want something to go with this...

[skill]Critical Defenses[/skill][skill]Golden Phoenix Strike[/skill][skill]Critical Strike[/skill][skill]Moebius Strike[/skill][skill]Death Blossom[/skill]

most likely /W for
[skill]Wild Blow[/skill]

zling · Nov 26, 2007, 07:29 AM // 07:29

every secondary can benefit a sin, the choice is simply a matter of play style. popular choices are:
A/R Critical Barrager- good for a new sin as it makes you a lot less vulnerable and does pretty good damage.
A/W IAS/Wild Blow- even on the fast attacking daggers IAS still makes quite a difference. Wild Blow is used for a sure critical, mainly for skills such as Critical Defenses, Critical Agility, etc that either renew themselves when you critical or give you health/energy/whatever when you do.
A/Mo Deadly Arts Spiker- need I say more? Signet of Judgement and its deadly arts partners for crime.
A/Mes- Distortion can be a life saver sometimes. Wastel's Worry combines well with "black" attack chains by providing a hex and delayed extra damage. other hexes from the Mesmer line combine well with the sin.
A/Rit- Splinter/Warmonger Weapon- pretty self explanatory...

those are just from the top of my head, try out different professions, unlocking them in the Crystal Desert doesnt cost you money, and see what you like most.
just remember, your a sin not a warrior, dont try to tank or rush in without cover nor an escape root. play like a sin, hit and run or just midline(Crit Barrager and Deadly Arts Spiker)

DDeathblade · Nov 26, 2007, 06:19 PM // 18:19

Good side in today's Guild Wars is that there is profession swichers.

Jaigoda · Nov 27, 2007, 03:21 AM // 03:21

Assassin in general does not need a secondary. But just in case, I'd go with /E or /Rt. /W's good for Wild Blow, but Wild Strike's better, so I didn't include it. And seriously, WHY would you run ranger stances on a 'Sin? only thing viable is Crit Barrage, which despite what others say, will not help you be a better sin; it will help you be a ranger. I selected /E for the Conjures, and /Rt for Death Pact Signet (the only res you'll really want on a 'Sin). /D is alright for Crit Scythe if you get bored of Moebius blossom, AKA the best PvE 'Sin build at this time. A/Me or A/E if you're planning to farm with Shadow Form. But really, I'd say /Rt is the most solid for the hard res as well as Nightmare/Splinter Weapon.

ghostlyfenix · Dec 02, 2007, 10:48 AM // 10:48

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Originally Posted by Hermos

Apart from the double damage with a 60 base AL... a 'sin could be wanded to death. Critical defences, much?

sins have 70 armor?